Erik
Left 4 degrees varus 1 VV1
Right 6 degrees varus 1VV1 & 1 CW
3 degrees of External Wedges - Wider left stance
Kris
Left 0 nuetral 1 CWs -1/8 short spindle
Right 2 degrees varus 2 CWs -1/8 short spindle
3 CWs - Superfeet
Steve
Left 8 degrees varus 3 CWs 1/2 longer spindle
Right 13 degrees varus 3 CWs 1/2 longer spindle
6 CWs - Wider left stance
Total wedges installed = 12 (all varus, 10 CWs & 2 VV1s).
Average number of wedges per person was 4. This is just below the typical average of wedges used in good bike fits.
No one preferred the ITS wedges. We suggest trying both solutions for several fits (probably all fits) and you will be able to see that Cleat Wedges will be the preferred choice by far.
2 of the fits displayed wider left stance width.
Out of 6 feet (3 people) only 2 feet fit on standard width pedals.
Showing posts with label In The Shoe Wedges. Show all posts
Showing posts with label In The Shoe Wedges. Show all posts
Monday, April 11, 2011
Wednesday, March 9, 2011
Athletic Republic 6 Bike Fits – Feb 19 & 20, 2011
Melanie
Left 10 degrees varus 2 CWs
Right 10 degrees varus 3 CWs
Superfeet 5 CWs
Joseph
Left 9 degrees varus 3 CWs & 1 ITS
Right 15 degrees varus 3 CWs & 1 ITS – needs a shorter spindle
6 CWs – 2 ITS = 8 Wedges
Tommy
Left 6 degrees varus 2 CWs & 1 ITS 3 - 1/2 longer spindle
Right 4 degrees varus 2 CWs & 1 ITS 3 - 1/4 longer spindle
Superfeet 4 CWs – 2 ITS = 6 Wedges
Mark
Left 10 degrees varus 2 CW – wider stance width left
Right 7 degrees varus 2 CW
Superfeet 4 CWs
Katie
Left 7 degrees varus 2 CWs – 1/8 shorter spindle
Right 6 degrees varus 1 CW
Speedplay Extender plates
Superfeet 3 CWs
Kyle
Left mild varus 1 CW - 2 x3mm (6mm total) LLshims -Removed other brand in shoe wedge
Right mild varus 2 CWs -Removed other brand in shoe wedge
Replace other brand LL shims 3 CW
Total wedges installed = 29 (all varus, 25 CW & 4 ITS) average number of wedges per person 4.8 This is close to average number of wedges used in most good bike fits. The use of ITS type wedges is also about average. Remember the CW is almost always the primary wedge
2 – three mm Leg Shims where used
3 of the fits displayed a wider left stance width and only one had more narrower left stance – in general 3 to 4 of every 6 cyclists would have a wider left stance.
Do you use a similar amount of wedges? If not do you know why?
Tim Tilton from Texas leading the discussing about the previous bike fit in the class.
Left 10 degrees varus 2 CWs
Right 10 degrees varus 3 CWs
Superfeet 5 CWs
Joseph
Left 9 degrees varus 3 CWs & 1 ITS
Right 15 degrees varus 3 CWs & 1 ITS – needs a shorter spindle
6 CWs – 2 ITS = 8 Wedges
Tommy
Left 6 degrees varus 2 CWs & 1 ITS 3 - 1/2 longer spindle
Right 4 degrees varus 2 CWs & 1 ITS 3 - 1/4 longer spindle
Superfeet 4 CWs – 2 ITS = 6 Wedges
Mark
Left 10 degrees varus 2 CW – wider stance width left
Right 7 degrees varus 2 CW
Superfeet 4 CWs
Katie
Left 7 degrees varus 2 CWs – 1/8 shorter spindle
Right 6 degrees varus 1 CW
Speedplay Extender plates
Superfeet 3 CWs
Kyle
Left mild varus 1 CW - 2 x3mm (6mm total) LLshims -Removed other brand in shoe wedge
Right mild varus 2 CWs -Removed other brand in shoe wedge
Replace other brand LL shims 3 CW
Total wedges installed = 29 (all varus, 25 CW & 4 ITS) average number of wedges per person 4.8 This is close to average number of wedges used in most good bike fits. The use of ITS type wedges is also about average. Remember the CW is almost always the primary wedge
2 – three mm Leg Shims where used
3 of the fits displayed a wider left stance width and only one had more narrower left stance – in general 3 to 4 of every 6 cyclists would have a wider left stance.
Do you use a similar amount of wedges? If not do you know why?
Tim Tilton from Texas leading the discussing about the previous bike fit in the class.
Wednesday, November 17, 2010
Back in the day
– Big Meat Cleat Wedges by A Gear Higher were often viewed as something no one needed….. and what was up with the crazy name. Well I guess it went with the crazy people at the time. Sort of seems like how a genius can be viewed as being a whack job and all of a sudden one day becomes accepted, admired and perhaps even changes the world.
Today most top fitters realize the Cleat Wedge is not only something almost every cyclists could use but actually NEEDS.
Wow! What a journey.
In the 1990s we launched the Cleat Wedges and In The Shoe Wedges – Big Meat and Sole Power. Today they are simply Cleat Wedges and ITS Wedges.
We actually pitched these products to a company by the name of Specialized. Although they did not go for it at the time it was the only large bicycle company that showed an interest. They actually saw past the crazy name and realized its worth. I am sure there will be more on this company later.
In the meantime here is a list of just a few companies that actually purchase products from us today.
Boulder Center for Sports – Dr Andy Pruitt
Serotta (they just featured one of our mutual dealers "Get A Grip" in their newsletter)
Retul
Fit Kit
CycleFit in the UK
And many many more.
Today most top fitters realize the Cleat Wedge is not only something almost every cyclists could use but actually NEEDS.
Wow! What a journey.
In the 1990s we launched the Cleat Wedges and In The Shoe Wedges – Big Meat and Sole Power. Today they are simply Cleat Wedges and ITS Wedges.
We actually pitched these products to a company by the name of Specialized. Although they did not go for it at the time it was the only large bicycle company that showed an interest. They actually saw past the crazy name and realized its worth. I am sure there will be more on this company later.
In the meantime here is a list of just a few companies that actually purchase products from us today.
Boulder Center for Sports – Dr Andy Pruitt
Serotta (they just featured one of our mutual dealers "Get A Grip" in their newsletter)
Retul
Fit Kit
CycleFit in the UK
And many many more.
Wednesday, October 13, 2010
general re-cap
4 Bike Fits Auburn AL - October 8th
Average # of wedges required was just over 2 per foot.
Left 2 varus Cleat Wedges - 1 single stack
Right 2 varus Cleat Wedges
Left foot lined up wider than right
Left 2 Varus Cleat Wedges –
Right 3 Varus Cleat Wedges, 2 LL shims (3mm) and 1 single stack
Left foot lined up wider than right
Arrived with 2 BG shims per foot
Left 2 ITS Wedges
Right 2 ITS Wedges
Compared BG shims and ITS wedges back and forth – cyclist preferred the feeling of the ITS Wedges.
Need to add a Cleat Wedge or two (if two then reduce the ITS by one). Cyclist was using Crank Brothers cleats and pedals and we did not have a shoe shield to be able to put a Cleat Wedges under the sheild.
Stance width was about equal
Left 2 Varus Cleat Wedges
Right 2 Varus Cleat Wedges
Slightly wider left stance
3 of 4 cyclists displayed wider left stance
ITS was preferred in back and forth comparison.
2 cyclists required a shim
Do your fits compare to this?
Average # of wedges required was just over 2 per foot.
Left 2 varus Cleat Wedges - 1 single stack
Right 2 varus Cleat Wedges
Left foot lined up wider than right
Left 2 Varus Cleat Wedges –
Right 3 Varus Cleat Wedges, 2 LL shims (3mm) and 1 single stack
Left foot lined up wider than right
Arrived with 2 BG shims per foot
Left 2 ITS Wedges
Right 2 ITS Wedges
Compared BG shims and ITS wedges back and forth – cyclist preferred the feeling of the ITS Wedges.
Need to add a Cleat Wedge or two (if two then reduce the ITS by one). Cyclist was using Crank Brothers cleats and pedals and we did not have a shoe shield to be able to put a Cleat Wedges under the sheild.
Stance width was about equal
Left 2 Varus Cleat Wedges
Right 2 Varus Cleat Wedges
Slightly wider left stance
3 of 4 cyclists displayed wider left stance
ITS was preferred in back and forth comparison.
2 cyclists required a shim
Do your fits compare to this?
Tuesday, June 15, 2010
Your bike fit numbers -
Cycle Logic - Prince George, Canada – June 10-11 2010
No Valgus in this group of 5 cyclists
CW=Cleat Wedges
NO ITS (In The Shoe) Wedges were used.
IMPORTANT NOTE! Remember MOST of the time the Cleat Wedge is the solution, not in the shoe wedge. If you are not already on board with this I promise your satisfaction from your customers will go up considerably when your fits reflect more Cleat Wedges as the solution.
John
Rt Lt
varus 10° varus 11°
1 CW 1 CW
1/8” shorter Standard
Spindle Spindle
Dave
Rt Lt
varus 6° varus 6°
1 CW 1 CW
1/2” longer 1/8” longer
Spindle Spindle
Sully
Rt Lt
varus 12° varus 12°
2 CW 2 CW
½” longer 1/8” longer
Spindle Spindle
1 stack
Doug
Rt Lt
varus 17° varus 13°
4 CW 3 CW
½” longer ½” longer
Spindle Spindle
Karim
Rt Lt
varus 14° varus 5°
3 CW 2 CW
½” longer ½” longer
Spindle Spindle
Average Cleat Wedges per cyclists – 2 per foot
5 cyclists = 10 feet and 9 feet needed a longer or shorter spindle
In other words only 1 foot used a standard pedal spindle.
That means NOT ONE cyclist fit with a standard SET of pedals.
All 10 feet needed at least one wedge
4 of 5 cyclists needed a short stem.
Are your averages close to this? To be honest this is a little low on the cleat wedges compared to our overall average but is a little higher on the need for different spindle widths.
Shoes – one cyclist had two pairs of shoes - SIDI and Specialized BG Shoes – Both shoes required the same number of wedges per foot. You may think the BG shoes should use less wedges. I used to think the same but I am finding that not to be the case. Next time you fit someone with a combination of shoes and one brand is Specialized try the same number of wedges for each brand – see for yourself what you find.
If you are not close to this theses figures chances are likely you are missing something.
No Valgus in this group of 5 cyclists
CW=Cleat Wedges
NO ITS (In The Shoe) Wedges were used.
IMPORTANT NOTE! Remember MOST of the time the Cleat Wedge is the solution, not in the shoe wedge. If you are not already on board with this I promise your satisfaction from your customers will go up considerably when your fits reflect more Cleat Wedges as the solution.
John
Rt Lt
varus 10° varus 11°
1 CW 1 CW
1/8” shorter Standard
Spindle Spindle
Dave
Rt Lt
varus 6° varus 6°
1 CW 1 CW
1/2” longer 1/8” longer
Spindle Spindle
Sully
Rt Lt
varus 12° varus 12°
2 CW 2 CW
½” longer 1/8” longer
Spindle Spindle
1 stack
Doug
Rt Lt
varus 17° varus 13°
4 CW 3 CW
½” longer ½” longer
Spindle Spindle
Karim
Rt Lt
varus 14° varus 5°
3 CW 2 CW
½” longer ½” longer
Spindle Spindle
Average Cleat Wedges per cyclists – 2 per foot
5 cyclists = 10 feet and 9 feet needed a longer or shorter spindle
In other words only 1 foot used a standard pedal spindle.
That means NOT ONE cyclist fit with a standard SET of pedals.
All 10 feet needed at least one wedge
4 of 5 cyclists needed a short stem.
Are your averages close to this? To be honest this is a little low on the cleat wedges compared to our overall average but is a little higher on the need for different spindle widths.
Shoes – one cyclist had two pairs of shoes - SIDI and Specialized BG Shoes – Both shoes required the same number of wedges per foot. You may think the BG shoes should use less wedges. I used to think the same but I am finding that not to be the case. Next time you fit someone with a combination of shoes and one brand is Specialized try the same number of wedges for each brand – see for yourself what you find.
If you are not close to this theses figures chances are likely you are missing something.
Wednesday, April 7, 2010
Sunday, March 7, 2010
An ITS Wedge story - question 3 from post below
3) Should I cut your product to the proper size? I have a size 43 shoe and I am using the uncut 10 - 11 size ITS wedge. I am kind of afraid to cut them because I am getting a great result now. Will they work better if cut?
Phil,
In general, the size 10-11 will work for most people that have a 43 shoe size. However, your guide should be where the ball of the foot is located on top of the wedge. If the ball of the foot is behind the thickest area, you would need the next larger size wedge. The opposite of this would be where the ball of the foot is in front of the thickest part of the wedge. If this is the case, you may need to trim the front or get the next size smaller ITS wedge.
You were happy with results thus far. So, I can understand why you might not want to cut them. Because of your honest and thorough feedback we will be glad to send you an extra set of the original orange ITS wedges to do with as you please. We will also throw in some cleat wedges because the cleat wedge is almost always preferred. Specialized does not offer a cleat wedge…yet!
Phil,
In general, the size 10-11 will work for most people that have a 43 shoe size. However, your guide should be where the ball of the foot is located on top of the wedge. If the ball of the foot is behind the thickest area, you would need the next larger size wedge. The opposite of this would be where the ball of the foot is in front of the thickest part of the wedge. If this is the case, you may need to trim the front or get the next size smaller ITS wedge.
You were happy with results thus far. So, I can understand why you might not want to cut them. Because of your honest and thorough feedback we will be glad to send you an extra set of the original orange ITS wedges to do with as you please. We will also throw in some cleat wedges because the cleat wedge is almost always preferred. Specialized does not offer a cleat wedge…yet!
Friday, February 19, 2010
Eric Atnip from Lexington recently took our one day class at SlowTwitch.com
http://www.bizlex.com/Articles-c-2010-02-17-91462.113117_Working_couple_tap_endurance_to_set_up_triathlon_shop.html
Eric recently attended a F.I.S.T workshop and stayed an additional day for BikeFit’s education on the Foot/Pedal interface. Being F.I.S.T certified alone does not include cleat adjustments and assessment of the feet. Eric is one of the few to have both the F.I.S.T and BikeFit’s combined education. If you are in Kentucky this place offers a complete bike fit. Read about the new shop opening.
Eric recently attended a F.I.S.T workshop and stayed an additional day for BikeFit’s education on the Foot/Pedal interface. Being F.I.S.T certified alone does not include cleat adjustments and assessment of the feet. Eric is one of the few to have both the F.I.S.T and BikeFit’s combined education. If you are in Kentucky this place offers a complete bike fit. Read about the new shop opening.
Wednesday, February 10, 2010
Hi- Road in Japan
http://www.geocities.jp/bikehiroad/100202BikeFitSystems/index.html
Check out this link. Few people in the US are aware of our presence in other countries.
Hi-Road bike shop in Japan
Check out this link. Few people in the US are aware of our presence in other countries.
Hi-Road bike shop in Japan
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